Peter Tatchell on Somaliland
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Peter Tatchell hosts a weekly show on 18 Doughty Street called Talking With Tatchell. In this episode his guests share experiences from Somaliland.
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| Really? Did Quebec ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Really? Did Quebec face a genocide? no in fact they have been favored throughout the last half of the century. But there is one valid point with Quebec, a judge (i cant remember which court it was) that they, if a certain percent (50 i beleive)voted for seperation then they should recieve it. This is the rule of self determin. where the ppl decide how and who will govern them. This is a law &jsut bcit doesnt agree w/ur views dont go making new ones up...or at least tell me where u got them |
| Just in case u ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Just in case u didnt noe S.landers were polled under Prez. Egal &asked if they wanted to seperate over 90% voted for it |
| Lols. I wasnt ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Lols. I wasnt talking about the culture. Tell me wat prompted this seperation?????The war and ethnic cleansing. I never based my reasons on our ethnicity i based it on the fact that we were oppressed. The fallacy??? Fool the fallacy is in thinking that somalia is actually a state, oh lemme correct that: failed state. |
| No. You just havent ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| No. You just havent given me any good reasons about why we should unite. In fact, you like to pretend that my reasons are invalid despite consultation with intern. law. Wow... so it really is true. List out ur questions and ill get to them after my exams are done ill even cite them using book i found that talks about the history of all this. What lies bro? The fact that Barre tried to oppress us by only investing in the south and then when he realized that we werent happy..he tried 2 kill us? |
| Somaliland???? Is ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Somaliland???? Is that the best u got??? Making fun of our country and the Issaqs? I suppose when we named it Somaliland we were trying to back to our roots from when we were ruled by Britain. Or maybe we just wanted to pretend we hadnt united with the murders in the south. u know trying to forget wat had been done to us by the barre regime and how he had his soldiers line up our men and shot them one by one. or the fact that100's were kidnapped and never seen again. wow u've reached a new low |
| list out ur simple ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| list out ur simple questions then cuz i thought i answered them and why dont u answer mine??? u think i dont have things to do? I'm to show u another p.o.v based on research that i have done over the last year and u based not on logic or reason said it was wrong???? give me ur reasons and i mean real reasons instead of u just ranting. O btw, have u noticed i haven't said anything remotely negative (despite H/R violations about any tribes) so plz as an elder, act ur age. |
| stop calling it ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| stop calling it issaqland b/c unlike puntland we havent limited political postions to one tribe |
| My ignorance? This ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| My ignorance? This is the guy who stole assests from my family (similar to hitler's policies towards the jews), his actions taken against the nomadic population were another similarity to hitler's treatment of the jews where he had his men tamper with the supplies of the people (cattle, water etc) b4 leading a bombing campaign against them. Yes...these certainly are the qualities of a great leader who favored his own and f-ed up everyone else. The comparison is based on research about genocides |
| Disrespect u say? ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Disrespect u say? His policies almost got my dad killed and ended up taken the lives of my cousin who was only a child, and countless others. We'll when u ask the question r we better off than we were 20 y/a, well i'm pretty sure ive answered this b4 and maybe u forgot (or chose to ignore)but the south isnt better off (well 2 yrs ago it was when the Islamic courts took over -im not talking about their policie but the peace they brought) but the north has been quite successful since seperation |
| there's self ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| there's self determination for u. Instead trying make laws up maybe u should actually consult with the international ones. Just a thought :) |
| so why should we ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| so why should we let the south brings us into chaos. Look @ the fightin man! just look any person with an ounce of commonsense would realize why we dont want to be tied down to that anymore. too many lives were lost. Barre in short was a racist and war criminal and in the eyes of the world -not u- that makes him a horrible person who turned against his own and hence the comparison with hitler. lols. if u dont believe me y dont u look it up & make up ur mind. its all written& then we cna talk |
| B/c u refuse to see ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| B/c u refuse to see reason. Instead u listen to propoganda. I -on the other hand- have consulted several sources before making up my mind. Seriously, go look up what Barre and his regime did. |
| Its no use talking ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Its no use talking to u, so instead im telling u go research it. B/c if u haven't (which has clearly been demonstrated by ur lack of knowledge of international relations, disregard for H/R violations, and blatant hatred for S.land- illustrated by u -ignorantly calling it issaqland and displaying little respect to its loss of life and oppressing faced by the Barre regime). |
| U might reply back ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| U might reply back that u dont hate s.land but ur thinly veiled racist attacks says differently. Stop making it about the clans and make about whats best for the people. U said that somalia isnt any better than it was 20 yrs ago, perhaps seperation will change this. |
| Lastly, have u ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Lastly, have u considered that under Barre's regime 2 clans called for independence and his response was not to change his policies nor to consult the two clans but to destroy them. His reasons were very much similar to urs, he called them anti-somali or something along those lines. Clearly, history supports my claim that this wasnt a great man but instead one who ruled through force. Perhaps, if he tried to kill ur family off for no substantial reason u would feel the same. |
| So get me those ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| So get me those qoutes. And even if Worthington did say that to please the Issaqs in his riding (doubtful) it doesnt change the facts. |
| If you go over his ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| If you go over his message... he doesn't actually call out any tribes. Everything he stated was a fact: the porous borders that S.land shares with south allowed this to happen. You need to stop being so defensive. Ur last sentence is really offensive. 1st off ur assuming we r a part of somalia. We r not, we have our own government, own policies and we speak differently. Hows that for a cultural difference??? U might not like our independ., but u have not said anything substantial about unity |
| Well I never called ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Well I never called out innocent people who had nothing to do with it. I never even put u in the category of these people so stop trying to play the victim b/c no one pointed any fingers at u. If u go over my posts u'd see that i have tried to back up everything i've said with research and unfortuantely, the genocide took the form of north vs. south division. I mentioned a few who were responsible and who even today, have lead normal lives despite the thousands killed. |
| We both know who ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| We both know who was behind it. And who was behind the Hawiye genocide and the marjeerteen genocide. All im saying is if we can't talk about anything without u getting all defensive and saying things like u think i did it??? That's not the issue here. Yes there were non-isaaqs behind the killings but instead acknowledging this, u say it 'highlights [my] true colours and motives' wow... another strike against u. Go do ur research, seriously just go to an academic library and borrow some books. |
| I could take that ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| I could take that very same argument and turn it around and say that 'ur animosity torwards S.land demonstrates -or in ur words- highlights ur true colurs and ur motives.' Lols. Trying to play ur self as an academic but u kinda failed when u started making up laws and when u said i didnt understand them. Whats so hard to get about them? seriously thats a weak argument and if u actually consulted the laws u would realize this to. |
| in addition the ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| in addition the last part of ur message is pretty laughable considering u support a war criminal. Yea... u really dont have malevolent feelings towards S.Land even though u call the guy who tried to destroy it a great guy... yep no feelings of hate or envy wat so ever. |
| I dont understand ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| I dont understand international law now that is funny coming from the guy who complete labelled a law as a lie or invalid. LOLS :). Now thats funny. Right to self determination, human rights violations which we're disregarded by u as lies, and ur saying i dont understand international law? right, well when im citing intern. laws they're either invalid or i dont understand them. Glad we got that figured out. Just b/c u dont agree, doesnt mean wat i say was wrong. |
| tell me is it based ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| tell me is it based on carefully crafted research or ur opinion. Somalia is a- repeat after me- failed state with no claim or authority over S.land. Well tell me this, if we're so different from the south, why were we killed off and labelled as unsomali/anti-somali. U guys were toting this whole difference thing before why the change? besides why should we fork over our independence, peace, prosperity (in comparison to somalia)? b/c we speak the same language, practice the same religion? |
| Another hole in ur ... ( 1 week ago by amyro89) |
| Another hole in ur argument is the fact that quebec and anglophone canada we're colonized by two different countries. Quite similar to Italien Somaliland and British SOmaliland. |
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