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The Archbishop of Canterbury is a voice of reason amid a cacophony of bigoted BNP approved hatespeech. Christians should opt-out of the overburdened and radically anti-family British legal system by reinvigorating their canonical courts. As the nation state disintegrates religious pluralism will become more and more acceptable socially and legally in Europe.
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Archbishop's Lecture - Civil and Religious Law in England: a Religious Perspective
Thursday 07 February 2008
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams gave the foundation lecture at the Royal Courts of Justice
The title of this series of lectures signals the existence of what is very widely felt to be a growing challenge in our society -- that is, the presence of communities which, while no less 'law-abiding' than the rest of the population, relate to something other than the British legal system alone. But, as I hope to suggest, the issues that arise around what level of public or legal recognition, if any, might be allowed to the legal provisions of a religious group, are not peculiar to Islam: we might recall that, while the law of the Church of England is the law of the land, its daily operation is in the hands of authorities to whom considerable independence is granted. And beyond the specific issues that arise in relation to the practicalities of recognition or delegation, there are large questions in the background about what we understand by and expect from the law, questions that are more sharply focused than ever in a largely secular social environment. I shall therefore be concentrating on certain issues around Islamic law to begin with, in order to open up some of these wider matters.
Among the manifold anxieties that haunt the discussion of the place of Muslims in British society, one of the strongest, reinforced from time to time by the sensational reporting of opinion polls, is that Muslim communities in this country seek the freedom to live under sharia law. And what most people think they know of sharia is that it is repressive towards women and wedded to archaic and brutal physical punishments; just a few days ago, it was reported that a 'forced marriage' involving a young woman with learning difficulties had been 'sanctioned under sharia law' -- the kind of story that, in its assumption that we all 'really' know what is involved in the practice of sharia, powerfully reinforces the image of -- at best -- a pre-modern system in which human rights have no role. The problem is freely admitted by Muslim scholars. 'In the West', writes Tariq Ramadan in his groundbreaking Western Muslims and the Future of Islam, 'the idea of Sharia calls up all the darkest images of Islam...It has reached the extent that many Muslim intellectuals do not dare even to refer to the concept for fear of frightening people or arousing suspicion of all their work by the mere mention of the word' (p.31). Even when some of the more dramatic fears are set aside, there remains a great deal of uncertainty about what degree of accommodation the law of the land can and should give to minority communities with their own strongly entrenched legal and moral codes. As such, this is not only an issue about Islam but about other faith groups, including Orthodox Judaism; and indeed it spills over into some of the questions which have surfaced sharply in the last twelve months about the right of religious believers in general to opt out of certain legal provisions -- as in the problems around Roman Catholic adoption agencies which emerged in relation to the Sexual Orientation Regulations last spring.
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The Bishop of Hulme, the Rt Rev Stephen Lowe, robustly defended Rowan Williams and said he was appalled at the "kneejerk" reaction to a serious piece of academic work.
"We have probably one of the greatest and the brightest Archbishops of Canterbury we have had for many a long day," he told BBC Radio 4's World at One.
"The way he has been ridiculed, lampooned and treated by some people, and indeed some of the media within this process, is quite disgraceful. It is a shame on our nation."
The bishop said Williams had raised a vital issue for a society facing many multicultural challenges.
"He has a responsibility as leader of the established church in making sure the spiritual life of this nation is as healthy as possible. I believe he was doing that yesterday.
"I believe he was standing up for the different faith communities and the ways in which they are treated and was raising questions for people to debate in our society about the way in which Islam is treated alongside Judaism, Christianity and other faiths."
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Somebody needs to ... ( 8 months ago by StinkingHombre)

Somebody needs to ask Rowan Williams which brand of Islam will be the future state religion of England, Sunni or Shia? Mash aAllah!

where in Quran does ... ( 7 months ago by TheLoyalPrince)

where in Quran does it say that Jews & Christians are apes ??? PLease provide me the chapter & verse number~!

For those who want ... ( 7 months ago by cottonwhiskersuk)

For those who want to live under Sharia law four words of advice: GET OUT OF BRITAIN.

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It's the archbishop ... ( 6 months ago by jawajawa350)

It's the archbishop without portfolio! Let us pray... Oh Lord...help me to be a spineless prick not worth pissing on...even if I was on fire! May we learn to accept islamic laws...fifty lashes...an eye for an eye etc and turneth all Churches into Night Clubs! Who needs enemies when you have a prick like this?!?!?!

turn churches into ... ( 4 months ago by shakaz01)

turn churches into night clubs? i thought thats against islamic laws?

'Islamic Laws'?? ... ( 4 months ago by jawajawa350)

'Islamic Laws'?? Contradiction in terms! As for the night clubs, turning Churches into night clubs IS happening, I'm not saying muslims are doing it...but I am saying they are happy to see it...what do you think they prefer? A strong Christian state, or a state interested in self gratifacation turning places of worship into places to get drunk and pick up cheap women? As for the archtosser of wankerbury...he should be blown up live on ITV, pay to view...make a fortune!

Ahhh, those little ... ( 4 months ago by jawajawa350)

Ahhh, those little 'law abiding' communities which blow up trains, planes and automobiles...little sweethearts+of course, let us not forget their valuable contribution2society, their eagerness2adopt the ways of their host country,their willingness2fit in+mix with others,their interest in girls still at school who can be bought with cheap jewellery or drugs,their threats2those who are a different colour or religion when they stray into'their'areas..well done archtosser for caving in to depravity!

Lying is permitted ... ( 4 months ago by jawajawa350)

Lying is permitted by islam and is called "Al-taqiyya." meaning 'dissimulation'...islam permits this lying if the lies are told to so called 'unbelievers'..this should make any sympathisers looking at this or reading some of these comments think again. The archtosser of wankerbury should get some new glasses, those islamic rose tinted ones shouldn't be worn in a church!

Coeur De Lion! Long ... ( 4 months ago by jawajawa350)

Coeur De Lion! Long live the memory of the exploits of our King Richard the first! Curse the cowardly scum who only know how to bend over and get shafted! Shame on the spineless archtosser!

"archtosser of ... ( 4 months ago by shakaz01)

"archtosser of wankerbury" lol

Slobodan Milošević ... ( 4 months ago by LONEWOLFBRITANNIA)

Slobodan Milošević was just like King Richard the first a man with a backbone unlike the cowardly liberal scum Rowan and westminster trash...I WILL NEVER EVER SUBMIT TO ISLAM..EVER! and theres more poeple like me all over europe who are starting to wake up to this enemy within are boarders, let the former Yugoslavia be a lesson to what happens when goverments do not listen to the indegenous population.

Isaiah 7:14 we read ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

Isaiah 7:14 we read, "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel." Now the meaning of immanuel is -God with us. My dear Muslim brothers Dont just blindly believe in ur Religion because your parents were muslims and so you too were born Muslims. Try to question it and make a sincere attempt to know Jesus. that's all i ask of you.

Muslims believe ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

Muslims believe that thier good deeds negates thier bad deeds and so God measure them by thier Good deeds minus thier bad deeds. This is ridicules God is a Holy God he wont do such a Maths in matter of Sin. a person who sins is a sinner and forgiveness of sin is thru Jesus. a Christian kind of repentance. that is with sincere heart really be ashamed of ur sin and not repeat it from then onwards. Knowing Jesus will make u overcome temptation and stay away from sin. SO Muslim brothers know Jesus.

I am with you ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

I am with you LONEWOLFBRITANNIA . Greetings TuetonicKnight.

We know the prophet ... ( 3 months ago by Search4Knowledge)

We know the prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), as he told us, we shall worship the One God, not a human. To believe that God killed a man for me makes me very sad. I dont want that, the fact that I can reach paradise in my own in Islam is the best thing. I dont need someones sacrifice, God forgives cuz he can, and does not need to sacrifice an innocent person. Good day to you sir.

Jesus Christ is God ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

Jesus Christ is God himself who came to the earth to die for our sins. Now God in his Wisdom found it right to go the world and show Human kind how to live a holy sinless life and fight temptations. so he became a man. When we know Jesus we'll really repent for our sins and turn away from bad ways and be more like Jesus. God is a Holy God and does not like what is Unholy. when we recieve Jesus we become a new creation and live according to the will of God.

Humans are weak and ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

Humans are weak and are sure to sin but through Jesus they can overcome the desires of the world and be more Christ Like.

"I dont want that, ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

"I dont want that, the fact that I can reach paradise in my own in Islam is the best thing. I dont need someones sacrifice, God forgives cuz he can" But you are wrong Search4Knowledge. God had to purchase us all from the hands of Death and Satan and the price that he had to pay was the blood of his son. Satan had lead people away from God and there was no longer direct relation between God and Manking. Jesus ' death on the cross once again established relation between Manking and God.

I request all ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

I request all Muslims to please read Matthew 13. This chapter will reveal the truth of God to you. I pray that God will reveal himself when u read it.

Im sorry my friend ... ( 3 months ago by Search4Knowledge)

Im sorry my friend but you are speaking out of faith here. You cannot say I am wrong and you are right, this is what you believe. It is my opinion that God is not limited anyhow. To kill someone because he was not able to do it without it sounds strange and unjust. This is my opinion and I am not saying it is right, its how I come to a conclusion through rational thinking. It may be that you find it nonesence, but I respect that. May God guide us both. Peace to you.

Yes ... ( 3 months ago by teutonicknight25)

Yes Search4Knowledge i too respect ur Views. Yes May God guide Both of us to the truth. But one more thing unless we humbly try to seek GOd he wont reveal himself so lets pray to God without ceasing to guide us to the truth. Why i used the word "humbly" was we should not be of the opinion that we know everything and wat we believe is right but instead ask God to give us understanding. God bless u my brother Search4Knowledge.

No one is listening ... ( 2 months ago by bufantas)

No one is listening to your prayers teutonic knight . I humbly ask you to look through the hubble space telescope and read some science , which has replaced the mythology of religious texts with some truth.

The truth is the ... ( 2 weeks ago by enochpowellnickgriff)

The truth is the truth, and the BNP are correct, whatever you think of them.